It seems to me that Padan Fain may be "outside" of the Pattern. He initially was just a Darkfriend, but the DO "distilled" him and set him as a hound. Padan was not killed by Mashadar in EotW. He could have been lucky, I doubt it. Also the Black Wind in the ways "Spoke" to him and didn't kill him. The Black Wind and Mashadar are evil, but they are not creatures of the DO. Padan can capture Fades, Trollocs FEAR him. He has been touched by the DO but I think he may be even more powerful than any of the Forsaken. What do you think?